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shareholder. the federal government protected the depositors at the bank, but not the investors. so, when the bank closed, he lost his life savings. david mattingly, cnn, atlanta. and we are "pushing forward" now with the next hour of "cnn newsroom" with melissa long. >> thank you very much, tony. cleared for takeoff, finally. the long-awaited boeing dreamliner not quite lighter than air, but lighter than so many of the planes we now have. test pilots are taking it for a spin, possibly in just minutes. he was for it before he was against it. joe lieberman changes his mind about medicare, dimming the prospects for health care reform in the senate. and president obama wants to put the wind in winter, win/win, actually, save energy, save money, one roll of weather stripping at a time. sure, flights get delayed 30 minutes, an hour. but for 2 1/2 years? finally a maiden flight today for the dreamliner. it is a plane that boeing is banking its future on.
the test flight happening right now. this is a live picture from washington state, from everett, from the facility there. it is a 787 dreamliner. a totally new design. mostly made of composite materials, plastics instead of aluminum, so it's much lighter in its weight. less weight, what does that mean? less fuel. less fuel, what does it mean for you? fewer high-priced tickets and more money for the airlines. analysts say, and boeing is really hoping, this plane could revolutionize aviation. getting here, however, has been quite a challenge, because you have to look at the production. boeing outsourced more than -- of its parts on this plane than many of its other planes to date. that really came with mixed success. part shortages and some of the companies simply weren't on the same page. the first dreamliner was meant to be delivered to the buyer back in may of 2008. the new, expected delivery date now, would be 2010, late in 2010. want to find out a little bit more on this maiden flight, and for that we go to everett,
washington, the facility there, a live picture from siro, and all-platform journalist patrick standing by for takeoff. it's a big day for boeing, a very long-in-coming day. patrick? >> reporter: it is one of the most important days in this company's history, and just a few minutes we're expecting that on the airfield behind me we'll see the plane come, taxi down, and then ghee to the north of the airfield and take off. it's going to go about a four- or five-hour flight, just the pilot and the copilot aboard, the beginning of this process where they'll really take the plane and put it to an absolute test, see what it's capable of doing. they do it with every new airliner, perhaps something even more to prove, though, was, as you mentioned, a plane that's mostly plastic. the first airliner of its class to be made of the carbon composite materials, really a revolutionary plane. although it's been called the dreamliner, it's anything but a
dream getting this plane to market. some terrible delays. despite all those delays, problems with the supply lines, boeing said the plane is even more relevant now in the era of high fuel prices and increased consciousness over the environment. they say this plane delivers all that, and more, so hundreds of media out here waiting for this flight to take off, as well as several hundred boeing employees that have just come out here on their own, really, just to see their work take flight today. so, a lot of people with their fingers crossed, despite some really terrible weather out here all day that they're going to be able to get this flight up -- flight up after years of delays. >> years, really years of delay. this is the first new commercial airliner that boeing has had in about a decade now, in the work for years. it has huge price tag, $150 million for a plane, and when you're looking at the bottom line for boeing, this is a very important business venture. 865 orders from what i've been reading from 57 customers. when you look at those numbers, it's certainly boeing's most
successful launch and that is just by orders, most successful launch. again, this is a very big business concept for boeing, and this is not only a big day, as you mentioned, for the employees of the company, but also for customers that could be flying on this 787 someday. it could seat 200 to 300 depending on the configuration, and, patrick, as you mentioned, it could really revolutionize travel dos of the lighter capacity of the plane because it's made of composites rather than aluminum, it will, therefore, reduce the price that people have to pay when they buy a ticket to fly on one of these 787s. >> reporter: we'll see if the airlines will followthrough if they save money on fuel. we won't know until 2011 the first time a passenger like you or me can hope to go on the plane, nippon airways is the first to get delivery of this plane. so, still about ten months of
testing to under go before we can hope to get on one of the planes and make delivery. they'll take the plane and put it through just about every imaginable scenario to prove it is safe. a big day for this company. a lot of crossed fingers out here. i've seen a few tears in the eyes of boeing employees out here, because it's been a long, hard road, but hopefully it will put the company back on top they say, and also save and create thousands and thousands of jobs for the new facility just for the airplane in south carolina, and some of the producers around this world. a lot of people involved in making a very big project for boeing. >> and, again, about 2 1/2 years late, patrick oppman joining us from everett, in washington state. people bundled up at the airport, mid-40s today, overcast skies, rain in the forecast tonight, and whoil be keeping an eye on the launch -- or the takeoff i should say for the long-awaited voyage for the flight of the 787. we'll keep you posted and bring you more live pictures this afternoon. one in seven service members
is a woman, that means thousands of moms and wives and sisters, the women who hold many familying together, they are sometimes spending long months away fighting wars alongside the fathers and the husbands and the brothers and sometimes they return home wounded. cnn's campbell brown is reporting this week on some of the burdens that women warriors carry. ♪ >> go back. let's listen to the scale again. >> reporter: a typical night at the trotter household in east st. louis. from flute practice, putting up the family christmas tree -- >> spell it, so i know you spelled it correctly. >> reporter: -- to helping the kids with their home work. it's enough to make any single mom tired, especially this one. >> from here, the hole was right here. >> reporter: melissa trotter, though, is not just any single mother, she's also an iraq veteran, seriously injured just two months into her tour of duty. >> my teeth were knocked out. my helping was broke.
>> reporter: she was riding in her gunner truck when a fuel truck slammed into her. >> as he got ready to turn, i was on the side that he turned to, and he hit me. i don't remember anything. all i know is when i went to check my tongue across my teeth, there was nothing there. >> reporter: an accident like that would change anyone's life. for melissa, the primary caregiver for her two children deron and tiara, it was devastating. >> i couldn't really picture it or didn't really believe it that much until i saw her. >> kind of get in tight. >> reporter: women make up 14% of the active military. the pentagon doesn't track the number of single mothers, but we do know that 17 have died in iraq and afghanistan. the statistics didn't scare special agent melissa trotter, one thing she knew for certain,
she wanted to join the military. she thought it was the best way to provide security for her children. >> you try not to cry, because you don't want your kids to see you criam you got to be strong. this is my job. and she might not have understood and he might not have understood, but i know i have to do this. this is what i have to do. ♪ >> reporter: but she never expected she'd come home wounded, with shattered teeth and a badly injured knee, the army sent her to walter reed, paid for family visits, then sent her to rehab. she never considered how tough all that would be. >> i had to learn how to deal with being a mother and being a wounded soldier coming back, getting back into life, and being that person that i was before. and then five years now, and i still haven't figured it out. >> reporter: 8:30 a.m. every day finds melissa here, at the gym, a rehabilitation process that is
taking time, but one step, one mile, one workout brings melissa and her family closer to recovery. >> days i'm in pain, can't walk, they won't know it. by the end of the day, they'll know it, but i'm still going to get up and do what i have to do to keep them going, because i want them to be successful. >> reporter: her son is a high school football star with his sights on a college scholar. . her daughter a young musician who loves social studies and hopes to be a teacher someday. melissa is proud of how hard they have worked, not only for themselves, but for her. everything that they've achieved they've achieved as a family one step at a time. >> they're taking care of me when i should be taking care of 24e8, so maybe coming back injured was more harder than i realized. i don't want them to think that this job that i had stopped me from being a mom, you know?
i'm going to always be a soldier. i'm going to always be a mom. like men, women often bring the wars home with them. posttramatic stress is certainly a wound that really doesn't show on the outside, at least not at first, but it can be just as deadly as a land mine. on campbell's show last night, an expert talked about the problems that women warriors face themselves just being recognized themselves as warriors. >> they come home and people don't -- they stereotype they think well, you know, you're in a support service, you're not going to be outside the wire. and so it gets very frustrating and they feel like they're invalidated, and they certainly are warriors, and they're out on the front lines and they're being medics and they're seeing all sorts of things that their male counterparts are seeing. however, they're not treated the same when they get home. the story, "band of sisters" on campbell brown, 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight and that's only on cnn. the president and the majority leader, harry reid,
needs his vote for health care reform. no lieberman, no deal. today he's talking about what it will take to twin him over and proceed with health care reform in washington. and as promised, we are watching and waiting for the inaugural flight, the maiden voyage, of the 787. it is a boeing project, first time in some ten years we've seen a new plane from boeing, and it is a plane that sells for around $150 million. looks like the wheels are starting to roll. again, this is live from everett washington, washington state, the headquarters, of course, for boeing, getting ready for a battery of tests, in fact. this is not a short flight, this is a four- to five-hour flight, but it will be circling allot around everett, around seattle, it will land about five hours from now on the boeing field in downtown seattle. if you're just turning on your tell vision, again, this is a 787. you can see it there on the tail. it's a boeing plane, when it goes commercial, when you have the opportunity to fly on it,
you could fly between 200 and 300 passengers depending on how it is configured. the ceo of boeing and i directly quote him now, we think it's a game changer because it provides so much value to the customer, the potential value could be passed down -- again could be passed down -- when it comes down to how much you pay. this plane is made unlike any other plane, plastic rather than the traditional aluminum which could transfer -- could transfer -- when you go to buy an airline ticket in the future. a lot of promise for the passengers and the airline itse itself. hasn't created a new plane in about a decade now. there were a lot of production delays, a strike and technical problems. boeing will talk about how it had problems with a lot of the suppliers, outsourced a lot of the work itself, which led to, again, many of the delays. about 2 1/2 years now that this plane has been delayed, the 787. you can see on the left-hand side of your television screen, 800-plus orders.
865, in fact, from 57 customers, when you look at the numbers, it makes it boeing's most successful launch. we have a cnn all-platform journalist standing by for us in everitt, washington. he's standing by as it goes on the latest flight. patrick, can you hear for us? he's there on this cloudy day. i'm curious what you can tell us about it. i know it's a very important project for the employees. >> reporter: it's first things first. it's very cold. a lot of bundled-up people out here on an airfield. you don't want to be at an airfield on a cold day, but it's an exception. it's an incredible day to be here. off to my right, i can see hundreds and hundreds of boeing employees trying to get a glimpse of the work of their company. down the runway, just over the berm there, the national, international news media, about 300 members of the media from around the world have set up. you can look down the runway and see hundreds of more boeing
employees, it's just an incredible sight, people come out to see the plane off. and you think the years of work that have gone into this plane. it's really coming down to this moment. can it fly? boeing has every reason to believe that the design is sound, that this flight today is going to prove a lot of things about the future of the airliner, the 787 dreamliner, and the future of their company, but it really comes down to this, can it fly? there are only two people on board this flight, the pilot and the copilot. there have been test flights in the past, it doesn't happen very often, where there have been accidents, some things have happened. people don't think anything like that will happen today. they've done all the safety tests. they've gone through this plane again and again and again to make sure it's a sound aircraft, but until it takes off down the runway in just a little bit, we really don't know, so they have their best pilots in the cockpits today. again they'll be going up for about four to five hours. they'll be traveling many miles,
but it is the beginning of a ten-month process to take this plane to the limit and beyond. boeing wants to prove everything in this flight can do the things, melissa, what they said they want to show that this plane can take a lightning strike. >> wow. >> reporter: and obviously a lot of people have been in flights before when you get hit by -- >> patrick, you mentioned the pilot, patrick. i wanted to tell our viewers who was in the cockpit, mike parker, a former engineer and navy flight instructor and he has a copilot with him. you mentioned it's day one of a lot of testing. because we have today, and then we have nine, ten more months of testing. so, mike and his co-by loot and a team of more than three dozen other pilots will be testing this 787, giving the engineers hopefully the results, the data, that they have worked hard for, worked tirelessly for, as they've been building this new plane. again, a boeing 787. i want to tell our viewers -- oh, there's a picture of the pilot there on the lnd side of
your television screen, it's mike carriker, a former engineering and navy flight instructor. he's at the controls of this 787. built mostly of composite plastic. that is significant. outside made up, unlike the traditional planes that you fly on, maybe today if you happen to be at the airport or maybe if you're taking off later today, a plane built of aluminum. this is built of plastic. and that's a very big focus when it comes to looking at exactly what this plane can do, how it could possibly revolutionize airline travel. >> reporter: you're absolutely right. it's going to be lighter. it's going to be faster. boeing estimates that you can save -- airlines can save between 15% to 20% of their fuel costs, that's just a huge number you think of how airlines are cutting back on every little thing to try to stay solvent, so to tell an airline that they can save that on fuel. a very expensive airplane, but for the ones that are able to -- and a lot of international
carriers are looking at this, despite the years-long delays you still have over 800 planes that have been orders for, so that's an enormous number. considering all the problem that it had getting ready, you can hear the helicopters flying over and you can sort of feel the energy getting ready as the plane is getting out on the runway and we expect to have a takeoff here very soon. >> as we watch the live pictures as it taxis -- as we watch the live pictures as it taxis in everett, washington, 10:17 in the morning west coast time. patrick was talking about the plastic that boeing said the new material will allow it to hold up better to wear and tear than the traditional aluminum planes we're accustomed to flying on. and patrick was talking about how it could use up to 20% less fuel and that's important because of the environmental nature, it's a more environmentally friendly way to fly because it will use less fuel and costing the operator less to fly and possibly
transferring down you to, the customer, with cheaper fares. live pictures just now if you're just turning on your television from kiro, from seattle, washington, the dreamliner, that's the name for this plane, the boeing 787. it is ten years in the works and it is the first commercial airline for boeing in a decade now. it's delayed 2 1/2 years. there were problems with production. a lot of the components were outsourced. also a strike during the process of putting this plane together. so, if you're just turn on your television, we want to make sure you know what you're watching, the boeing 787 getting ready for its maiden voyage. it's about 43 degrees right now in seattle. rainy forecast, a little overcast skies, pretty typical for seattle. and, patrick, you mentioned it's chilly, but despite that you have a lot of people out there at that facility in everett. >> reporter: i'm amazed by the turnout, but i guess for a lot of the employees it may be the last time they get to see a
project this big come out as we were talking about. it's only about every decade that a major airliner comes out, that you have this kind of event, and they're able to see the -- all the work really condensed into one event like this. so, i saw some people today, engineers up there, watching it, and they were very emotional already, i'm sure they're feeling the emotion right now. and the composite materials are so interesting because as you said, they have that environmental impact. they have the cost-saving impact, but even though there are some military planes that are made up of this mostly composite material that this flight really has, they still haven't used them commercially. one of the things they were doing is bring some of the panels and actually let the airline from japan did it with hammers and axes to show it can hold up to wear and tear, because they said they had a problem convincing people that plastic could hold up. >> showing how durable it is. >> reporter: they feel they've done the sales job.
>> patrick, you mentioned how chilly it is, i know you're just one of many reporters. because this is not just a plane for domestic flights, it's a plane bound for international flights, a lot of international interest as well, of course, the many people that have worked at boeing over the years. so, they are all bundled up right there at everett and braving the chilly temperatures. and we want to bring in chad myers and talk a little bit more about the forecast. because we've been waiting to see whether or not the flight would take place, because obviously you need to have the appropriate weather to make this plane get off the ground. >> you have a 3,000 to 3,800-foot ceiling so as this plane takes off, unless it is takes below that ceiling you'll see it fly right straight into a cloud mass. so, yes, it is a cold day. the relative humidity is very high. i think you'll see something with this plane. i don't know what the pilot and copilot will do with the plane, but realize the plane is light, because that's how they built it. and the plane is empty, because they are the only two in there. there's no cargo in the hold that we know of, the plane may
jump off the runway literally in half the time that you two think of a regular airliner would take as it rumbles down the runway, you know, sometimes you get in one of these big planes and you go, man, are we ever going to get off the ground? >> right, right, right. >> are we going to fly? come on. this thing will get up to speed quickly because of the way it is right now. it will get off the ground quickly. temperatures are in the 30s. and with a little bit of wind, it feels cold. you can see how wet it is. it's the cold that will go right through you, you may be wearing gloves but the cold goes through your gloves and into your fingers. the pilots obviously don't care, but the employees who are waiting for -- it seems like a very slow taxi. >> it does. >> slow! >> par for the course perhaps for people working tirelessly on this project, it may get off the ground quickly, but certainly not a plane that has gotten off the ground quickly how many years it was in development. certainly the airline and the ceo saying it's reevelutionary and could revolutionize air
travel but it's a project they've been workening for years, again, we haven't seen a commercial planle out of boeing for about a decade now. pulling up the camera from the helicopter perspective and showing you the plane and the surrounding facilities right there in everett, washington, the headquarters, of course, of boeing in the seattle area. the plane will take off momentarily, we're watching and waiting with you. waiting for the pilot to get the go-ahead from air traffic control to take off. he's not going to be traveling all that far, but he will be up in the air for a while. because they are expected to be up there for 4 or five hours to do the testing. and the testing will continue for nine or ten months working on the data and get all the data that the engineers need for this flight to be sold for, of course, the many customers that have already placed orders for the plane. it does look like a chilly day as chad was saying and patrick oppman your all-platform journalist was saying a moment ago who is also in everett. i just can'ted to -- chad, are you still is us? >> of course. >> i wanted to talk with you
about the sperks that some people have when they are flying and how they are waiting to take off, we don't know how fast this plane will go since we don't have the cargo and the people on the plane except for the captain and the copilot. >> that's completely up to the captain. he can bring it up to a nice idle and get it up to 60% thrust and the plane will take off. or if he wants to show it off, he can say, here we go, and put it down. that's not a green plane will want to do, floor it, and the jack-rabbit start. but he'll put it through its paces, he or she. some escorts, there. i can't tell what, they are too far away. a good-looking shot out of boeing. >> i understand we can hear some of the conversation taking place right now between the captain and the copilot and air traffic control. >> cool. >> we want to let our viewers hear it as well. >> they're flying north but they'll come around. there is actually -- there will
be cameras on board, both still and video cameras on board those two planes. and we will have video from the chase planes later today after the airplane lands at boeing field. >> and it will land later today several hours from now. not in everett, washington, but at a nearby location. it will be actually landing about 40 miles away at boeing field which is just south of downtown seattle. we're just outside of seattle right now in washington state. live picture from everett washington from our affiliate kiro and also boeing. 10:24 in the morning, west coast time. as you know, 1:24 in the afternoon east coast time. and we are waiting for this flight 787, the 787, the maiden voyage, the maiden flight, more than two-plus years of delays have brought this plane to this point. the test flight over the weekend and then a series of nine to ten
more months of testing for this plane before you will have the opportunity to fly on it. and a lot of orders have already been placed. in fact, it's boeing's most successful launch when you look at the orders that have already been placed. 765 of them right now from some 57 customers. at the controls right now, a pilot and his copilot, that is mike carriker. he's an engineer and also a former navy flight instructor. he is at the controls, and just the two of them on board this flight right now, getting ready to take off from everett, washington. when you fly on the plane someday, if you have the opportunity to do so, you will be flying with between 200 and 300 passengers. it depends on how it is configured. planes will sell for around $150 million each. it is a very big project for boeing. the airline has not put out a commercial airliner in about ten years now, a little more than a decade now. 787 is not anticipated -- it isn't anticipated that it will
start flying passenger routes until at least maybe 2011, the end of 2010, early 2011. and the flight today certainly important to eliminate doubts about this plane. it is made very differently than the planes that you fly on today. which are predominantly made of aluminum. this one predominantly made of composite materials or plastic. patrick oppman, are you still with us? he's an all-platform journalist for us at cnn at everett. if you can tell us more about the composite certainlies and the plastics and how boeing has been trying to prove to people who may be a little bit skeptical how this is possibly a revolutionary way to travel and how durable this plane really is. >> reporter: an interesting thing is there are military planes that have the same makeup, but no commercial airlines and boeing is trying to compete with the big reliable airbus, years back they had the choice of do we try to go bigger? and instead they thought,
smaller, faster, more fuel efficient. the irony, of course, they would have liked to have this plane ready years ago, but boeing field told me yesterday, in a lot of ways this plane is more relevant, so even though they've had the delays, it would have -- what it means is that they're coming out with a plane that is really much more relevant to the market right now, a plane that is more fuel efficient and more environmentally friendly -- >> patrick, i think we're ready to watch the maiden flight right now. the flight 787. here's the opportunity here. you hear the applause and the celebration in the background and let's watch as the boeing 787 dreamliner makes its debut.
>> three three with you, 250 delta. >> thank you much, tower. boeing 001 flight 128.5. >> there she goes. the boeing 787 dreamliner. one for the ages. >> live pictures from kiro, everett, washington, you are watching the maiden flight of 787. more than 2 1/2 years of delays, and now this boeing project is, again, cleared for takeoff and taking off in the skies over everett, washington. at the controls it's mike carriker, an engineer and former
navy flight instructor. he has a control pilot in there as well. the day has been long in coming for the endless number of employees at boeing and the companies that were responsible for putting together so much of the composites that are a huge component of this plane. the boeing ceo telling our patrick oppman just yesterday how important the plane is for the company. he said, we think it's a game changer because it is provides so much value to the customer, that value also to the airlines. it's anticipated that it will use 20% less fuel, therefore, possibly environmentally friendly as well. just because it's taking off today, though, doesn't mean you'll be flying it tomorrow. this is the first of many days of testing, nine, ten months of testing will follow as they gather all the data that the engineers will need before this plane can be flying commercially. but a lot of the companies out there would really like to have this airline in their fleets, in the fleet. boeing has, in fact, called this the most successful launch, when you look at orders, to date,
some 767 orders from some 57 customers. live pictures right there of many people that have gathered in everett, washington, who is outside of seattle, to watch this dreamliner make its debut on this tuesday, late morning and early afternoon on this tuesday. you're watching cnn. you're in the "newsroom." ring ring. progresso.
and he'll vote for it. and we'll find out more by talking to congressional correspondent, brianna keilar. hi, brianna. >> reporter: hi there, melissa. the senate democrats have had a hard time trying to find a hallmark of their health care reform bill that they can get 60 votes on, all of the democrats and two the independents that normally stick with democrats on domestic issues. at first they were going to try for the public option, the government-run, insurance plan, it was clear they didn't have the votes for that, so then there was this tentative agreemented this worked out for the medicare buy-in that you mentioned. this was the idea of allowing uninsured folks between the ages of 55 and 64 buy in to medicare. well, senator joe lieberman, of course, an independent of connecticut, poured cold water all over that, making it very clear over the last day to senate democratic leaders he was not going to be their crucial 60th vote on that item, but today he did say, with what looks like obviously the public option gone, this idea of the medicare buy-in gone, he thinks
he can get behind it. take a listen to what he said just a short time ago. >> i'm getting toward that position where i can say what i wanted to say all along, that i'm ready to vote for health care reform. my whole point has been here that the president laid out a couple of big goals for this process. bend the cost curve down for individuals, families, businesses, our government, our economy, of health care, and secondly, bring a lot of people in who can't afford health insurance now. the basic core bill does that. >> reporter: so, after being skewered really over and over by some liberal blogs and some liberal observers off the hill, senator lieberman trying to make it very clear there that he is behind health care reform and passing it before christmas, it's just that he really has some conditions that definitely need to be met before he can support it. and in talking with sources familiar with the thinking of senate democratic leaders, melissa, it really seems even though they haven't officially
put up the white flag of officially killing this medicare buy-in idea, they want to pass a bill, even if it won't include the medicare buy-in, their main goal is passing a bill. three don't want it going into the new year, so it appears that they'll just have to capitulate to senator lieberman's demands on this. >> passing it by christmas holiday, not drag into the new year is a big goal. there is a meeting at the white house. what do they expect to come out of this? >> reporter: i talked to democratic sources and they said they are expecting it to be a little bit different. president obama has come up here to capitol hill and he's met with democrats and senate democrats and a lot of times he's given them a pep talk to use his own description. well, this is expected to be a little different. this is the first time that all senate democrats have gone to the white house, so symbolically, it tells you they are trying to set a different tone. the sqhows trying to set a tone that this is different. this is really expected to be according to one democratic source i spoke with, a message of do or die. we need to get this done now or
it can very well die. and this is an effort that is completely stalled and it falls apart, then basically that is going to be riding on the senate and it's going to be a generation we're expecting president obama to tell them, before this is going to be taken up, and he's obviously going to say that just is not okay. and you guys need to move forward. so, we're expecting a really stronger message. that meeting actually happening mere in a few minutes, and some of these senate democrats have already been showing up at the white house, melissa. >> as obama really putting the preshl jure on today. >> reporter: yes. >> brianna keeler, live for us from washington. we want to get you up to date on the stories. three officers with the shenandoah police, including the chief, are due in court next hour. indicted in a hate crimes probably into the fatal beating of a hispanic man last year. the officers are accused of hindering the investigation in to the death of luis ramirez. two teens also face hate crime charges. they allegedly beat ramirez while shouting racial slurs.
freedom, now uncertain for two convicted murderers in north carolina. they were set to be released from prison yesterday, but an appeals court blocked it. the inmates were sentenced under a 1970s law that limits life terms to 80 years. their attorneys argue their good behavior credits that shorten their terms further. the latest ruling gives the state another chance to keep the inmates locked up. and the cdc, the centers for disease control, is recalling 800,000 doses of swine flu vaccine for children. there are some concerns the serum may not be as potent as it should be, but health officials say you do not have to have your children vaccinated again. good news for tiny thomson, illinois. new jobs are coming. the bad news, about 100 terror suspects are coming with them. man: there are millions of colours in this world. but in business, only two matter: red and black. red, well, no one wants that. black, on the other hand, has strength.
sometime this afternoon we should know for sure if dozens of terror detainees will be leaving the prison at guantanamo bay, cuba, and moving to the state of illinois. the state prison in thomson, about 150 miles northwest of the city of chicago, could become gitmo north. right now much of that prison is, in fact, empty.
only about 200 minimum-security inmates there, even though there are some 1,600 cells. now, the feds would upgrade it to a super maxlike prison for the detainees from guantanamo bay. we want to find out a little bit more about the community. thomson, illinois, population around 600. it is a place that could really use some jobs, but not everyone sure that this is the kind of stimulus they want. we have the sheriff on the phone, joining us live from carroll county, which is where thomson is located. sheriff, thank you very much for your time. appreciate it. >> sure. no problem. nice to talk to you. >> nice to talk to you, too. tell us about the prospect of having 100 detainees from guantanamo bay moving into your community. >> well, i don't think we're too much focused on 100 detainees as we are about the jobs that it will bring to the area. >> how many jobs could you see? how many new jobs could you see, in your community, and why is it that you are so in need of jobs right now? what is the major employer that is there? >> actually the major employer
that had been here in the past was two different railroads that picked up stakes in the 1980s and also the federal government had an army installation on the north end of the county, and they closed up in about 1999 or 2000. >> so, some people may see the real benefits of having these jobs now available to the people that live in your community, but there are, i would imagine, people that are concerned about security. so, what type of security changes will take place at this facility? which has never been truly used at full capacity. >> well, ionthe prison. i know that there's going to be a military presence at the prison for the detainees. i also know that there's going to be a number of guard positions for when it opens up to regular federal prisoners. >> and you said obviously there are jobs that are needed, that there are people in your community that would like to fill these positions. what is the buzz about on the streets of your community about this? >> i think most people are in favor. i think most people are excited
about it. you know, the detainee issue, i don't think it's really an issue. you know, the army installation that was there in the past, it was from world war i up to "desert storm" had, you know, had anything from nuclear weapons to holding prisoners of war at there at one time. so, you know, i don't think it's anything new to the county that, you know, we do have security issues here. we're just gearing up for it. >> gearing up for it. what would you be doing? would you be changing about anything you go about your day, you go about your job, if, in fact, you did have about 100 denanenys from guantanamo bay living not too far from where you call home, the home place where you flive >> we're going to -- you know, we're going to do some -- we've already been having some meetings with the chiefs of police in the area and the illinois state police, and we'll be doing a few things different, but obviously i'm not going to get into it with you about the security, what we're going to change, what we're not going to change. we're just going to gear up for it and we're ready for it and looking forward to the prison
opening. >> again, it's the thomson correctional facility in thomson, illinois, we could learn later today whether or not the terror detainees from guantanamo bay, cuba, could be moved to mr. doran's community in thomson, in illinois. thank you very much for your time and your perspective. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. new witness accounts from the sweat lodge tragedy in arizona. you're going to be hearing from a former employee of self-help guru james arthur ray. find out what that person has to say. and she certainly does not hold back. in the middle of the night, why would you go one more round using it ? you don't need a rematch-- but a re-think-- with lunesta. lunesta is different. it keys into receptors that support sleep, setting your sleep process in motion. lunesta helps you get the restful sleep you need. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving or engaging in other activities while asleep without remembering it the next day have been reported. abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, agitation,
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installing new windows and doors, insulation, roofing, ceiling leaks, modernizing heating and cooling equipment, is one of the fastest, easiest and cheapest things we can do to put americans back to work while saving money and reducing harmful emissions. >> now, the president says the plan also means jobs for small contractors. the days of passing a note to a friend in class, apparently so over. texting especially with photographs certainly has really changed adolescence. so, why does 21st century dating seem to require snapshots of body parts? well, speaking of body parts, yeah, the octopus known for its eight arms, right? well, maybe we should love and it cherish it for its brain. it might, in fact, be the einstein of the sea. all that, and much more coming up next hour. also new witness accounts from that sweat lodge tragedy in the state of arizona. you're going to be hearing what
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we want to make sure you have all toicof the information have that we have been following for months, and we keep finding new chapters. james arthur ray seems to have followers around the globe. three of the followers died when in a sweat lodge in minnesota. he has not been talkative or cooperative with law enforcement since nor have any of the employees until now. a former high-level employee details what happened that day in october. quite simply instead of helping the victims, ray allegedly, allegedly ignore their cries for help and did nothing as they were dying. we have a powerful interview that gary tuchman conducted with that former employee, a former senior employee and now turned whistleblower.
i want to show you highlights from last night's "anderson 360 program." >> reporter: the day of the sweat lodge tragedy, martha ray is the first woman to speak out, and what she says is sickening. melinda helped to plan the incident in sedona, arizona. three people died. melinda was outside of the tent after the sick came out with many collapsing. while ray continued to lead the ceremony inside of the tent, she says. >> it was like an absolutely mash unit, and helicopters coming out, and when he came out, the helicopters were not there, but bodies everywhere, passed out, and he walked out of there looking like a million bucks. >> reporter: what was james ray doing at that time? >> standing above and watching. they hosed him down, and he said, oh, thank you, and then he walked by the guy who was screaming saying earlier he didn't want to die, and please don't let me die, but when james
walked by him, this guy said to james from his sitting down position, he goes, i died. i literally died and i came back to life. james was like, hey, all right, man, high five, and it was fantastic and james was completely oblivious to the pandemonium taking place around the sweat lodge. >> reporter: what happened in the horrifying point? >> my worst point or the most horrifying point was when the ambulances arrived and the helicopters arrived and the paramedics and they came surveyed kirby brown, and they put her in an ambulance instead of a helicopter, and that is the worst moment for me. >> reporter: because you knew it was too late for her? >> yeah. and after me giving her mouth to mouth, and i would breathe in her mouth and the stomach would go up and down, and she would vomit into my mouth, and this happened four times. i really thought i would bring her back. i really thought she would
survive. >> it is stunning that james arthur ray left it to the employees to give mouth to mouth while he is being hosed down and giving people high fives. you did another story recently and tracked down another woman who had died, and committed suicide apparently during another james arthur ray seminar? >> right n. that event, anderson, it was in san francisco. he told to participant nos not carry i.d.s or cell phones in a self-sufficient exercise to go downtown in l.a. in one of the participants jumped off of a balcony and killed herself. she was a jane doe in a morgue for over seven hours. the employees didn't know why collene did not come back with the group. but melinda says this next day, she had breakfast with james. >> in the breakfast i said offhandedly saying where is
collene or have you been able to find her? and the staff just looked at me, like -- like deers in the headlight, and he said, well, i have talked to my attorneys and basically it is really important that you are not involved in this. and we have found her. and she is fine and she has decided not to return to the event, and if anybody asks you that, she is fine and decided not to return to the event. >> and now you know she decided not to return to the event because she was dead. >> right. >> and he told you because she had decided not to return. >> right. and i thought it was strange that i was asking questions. i thought it was an innocent question. >> and gary, you were kicked out of a james arthur ray meeting when you tried to ask a question. what does he say? >> well, he is not talking to us, but his company gave us a statement which says that food, water, and hoses to cool people off and staff members with cpr training including melinda, were
outside of the tent. the companies says, quote, no one had any reason to believe more precautions were required. if mr. ray or james ray international believed anything more was needed, they would have done it, and the moment that james ray learned that sweat lodge participants had been seriously ill, mr. ray acted immediately. he faces possibly serious charges. the sheriff's office in sedona is not talking to reporters, but they are talking to followers, and they are confident that they will be charged. melinda has also been interviewed by the authorities and she believes that ray and others will be charged. >> reporter: what have they told you about that? >> i think they told me that there might be ten people indicted. i don't know who those ten people might be. >> reporter: might we presume ten other people near james ray.
>> well, i would have to speculate and that would look bad, so i would not like to. >> reporter: melinda says she has regular nightmares and has visited with the families of the victim, and she has taken a leave of absence and received a let ter saying that her position was being eliminated, and down the road, she could be an important prosecution witness against james ray. >> i would say that all of these deaths he would at least cooperate with the police, and if not, at least decency to cancel seminars, but he is out there making money. >> well, here is the latest, you can sign up for the james ray courses next year, and he can make money like that, but he has stopped to make the free seminars. >> you went to sem nafrs afterwards. >> yes, i was not allowed in, but my producer asked a question in front of 150 people, why are you holding a seminar after
three people died, and he was booed out of the sechl nminar a is not holding any more free seminars. >> we will bring you any new news on this story as we get it. news overnight in shenandoah, new mexico. two white teens are convicted of misdemeanor assault of two men who were jumped. today, two federal indictments and not just of louise attackers, but the suspects are due up in court this hour. soledad is here to help push the investigation forward. i know you have reported in the past on the case, so bring us up to speed as far as where things stand today going into the courtroom. >> this is a story we covered in a story called "latinos in
america." it has been months since he was beaten on the streets in long, and he was an immigrant and his death came at the hands of white teenagers and it revealed the hate between whites and latinos in shenandoah. one of the teenagers in the case collin walsh plead guilty to federal rights violations, and he was sentenced to 4 to 10 years. he said that they were beating him and yelling racial and ethnic slurs. all of the other attackers got simple assault. two of them were sentenced to six to seven months in jail, and there was a fourth juvenile put under house arrest. now one of the prisoners were due out on christmas eve, but it is in jeopardy, because they have been indicted on federal hate crimes violations and obstruction of justice, charges that could carry possible life
sentences for both young men. three police officers, including the chief of police will be arraigned shortly in a federal courthouse in pennsylvania. they are accused of obstructing justice in the ramirez investigation. the chief and another officer have been indicted on extortion charges. here is a look back at how it all began 18 months ago. >> reporter: in july 2008 louise ramirez, a 28-year-old undocumented immigrant from mexico and father of two was beaten to death by a group of white teenagers. >> the people united -- >> reporter: turning this town into a unlikely flashpoint in the national debate over immigration and racism. it all began on this street corner where a middle of the night encounter turned into a melee, and prosecutors say that ramirez was called epithets and he was kick and punched until he was unconscious, and two days later, ramirez was dead.
lou ann pleva who grew up there was horrified. >> it was unthinkable. how could kids do this? how could kids raised in my hometown do this? >> reporter: following the attack four teenagers werer arrested. high school football standouts. derrick, 19, and brandon and collin, both 17, were charged as adults. this man was charged with assault and the other two of third-degree murder. all three were charged with ethnic intimidation, a hate crime in pennsylvania. all pleaded not guilty saying that ramirez was an active participant in a street fight that went horribly wrong. collin walsh's father, michael, said last year that his son is a good kid. >> he has straight a grades. i never had a problem with calling or -- i don't believe any of those other boys were in trouble either. >> reporter: state prosecutors later dropped charges against walsh when he plead guilty to federal civil rights violations
and testified in court against his friends saying that racial slurs were used in the attack. an all-white jury of six men and six women convicted him and bacarski of simple assault. >> in my mind, it was the lack of evidence that brought them to serious charges that were brought. >> the jury has rendered the verdict, and they took a long time to deliberate on the case, and we respect their ver diblgt. >> reporter: but the verdict has enraged proponents of latino rights. >> in this case, a person who is not popular in society based on the national origin or certain characteristic has less value in our society. >> reporter: while many of the townspeople supported the young men, there was an outcry from civil rights leaders and there was testimony at the trial that the local police had met with the boys at least twice to get the story straight. one police officer was said to be dating the accused brandon
bacarski and shenandoah is a small town and another local newspaper said that a lieutenant who reported the scene had a son who played football with the two young boys. and there was a retired cop who said that many times she had repeatedly asked for an ambulance for louiuis ramirez, she said that police were the last to arrive and other units from other towns showed up first,refused to be part of it even though she could identify all of them. we interviewed the police chief mark nester, for the book, latino in america" and he said that the police officers responded quickly and he is proud of the job they did. he is now under indictment for obstruction of justice in ramirez' beating death and extortion. >> and again, the police
officers are due in court in wilkes-barre at 2:00 p.m. thank you, soledad. two convicted killers coming close to getting out of prison monday and within one hour of freedom, but the north carolina appeals court blocked the way for now. the judge halting the release of the two inmates sentenced to life back in the 1970s when they were sentenced with controversial state rules and credits. they claimed they had served the time and eligible to get out and the governor fighting to get the credits change and to of course keep the inmates locked up. that is his focus. president obama meeting with the senate democrats today pushing them to push a health care reform bill. big variable here is senator joe lieber map who says she for reform, and kind of praising the bill, but you can count him as a nay vote if the public option or if the new medicare buy-in happen to be in the mix. find out more as we join
congressional correspondent brianna keeler in washington. brian brianna. >> just to give you a sense that the closed door meeting here in the white house, and this is first time, melissa, all 58 of them plus the two independents who fall in line with the democrats on domestic issues are meeting with president obama. make no mistake about the symbolism here. they are on his turf and not theirs and this is the first time all of them have gone to the white house to meet with him. and also, you know, i have talked with a number of democrat sources who expect to get a do-or-die speech from president obama telling them, you have to deliver something to me before christmas and essentially saying that the entire health care reform effort here is at stake. as you know, if this moves into the election year, it will be tougher. this not going to be as president obama described in some of the past meetings with democrats, a pep talk. this comes on the heels of a setback of senate democratic
leaders dealing with senator joe lieberman. initially in the senate they hoped to have the government-run insurance plan and public option, but clear they would not get the votes on that including from some of their own democrats. so they moved towards what they thought would be more likely to go through the senate, that idea of a medicare buy-in, and unallowing uninsured folks between 55 and 64 to buy into health care, but senator lieberman said he would not vote for this, and because of that, it seems obvious at this point that the senate democratic leaders have to drop that idea and be happy to push a health care bill, even if it does not include a public option or this watered down version which would be that medicare buy-in, melissa. >> brianna keilar, live for us from washington. thank you. focusing on health care and dna and all too often dna is mia in violent crimes that could have been prevented simply aren't. than a comparable honda civic.
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they have been lost or do not exist. some of them are sitting years to be tested and then the crimes go unsolved and criminals unchecked an unpunished and that is the very subject of a hearing to today by the senate judiciary committee. i want you to hear from a rape victim, advocate herself about the dangers of the dna backlogs. >> there is a good chance that the vital evidence will sit on a shelf with thousands of other kits. it is to the detriment of the safety of women everywhere. statistics prove that the average rapist rapes eight to 12 times before he is caught, and how many will these be presented? i existed for 6 1/2 years waiting for my rape tois be identified and trying to deafen the sound of his voice in my ears, but for fear of my family and myself held my heart and
soul within its grip. i became suicidal, seeking peace and rest from the pictures that played in my mind constantly, but finally dna revealed the identity of my rapist giving me the sweet breath of validation and promised justice. i want every victim of sexual assault to experience this gift of renewed life, and i am here today on behalf of those thousands of victims. >> one victim's story, and a couple of other cases in point. walter ellis should have given a dna sample when he was locked up in wisconsin, but instead, he got another inmate to give a sample to him, so police could not link him to a murder, and ellis went on killing. but he is finally in custody implicated by dna from his toothbrush. and in ohio, robert patten, jr., committed 37 rapes in a decade and a half. his dna was submitted in 1971,
but it didn't find a way to the data bank for three years. we want you to meet our guest, susan smith holly, from the national center for crime victims. she testified this morning at the hearing, and also chip harrow who knows all too well the missed opportunities from the dna. let me ask you, susan, since you were there before the senate judiciary committee, do you think any progress came from the hear to hearing or the testimony? if so, what kind? >> well, i think it forced the senators to explore some of the barriers that are keeping important rape kit evidence from making it to the crime labs and solving the crimes. they had an opportunity to discuss the various issues with rape victims, lab directors and
prosecutors as well as myself to find out really what can we do to fix the problem and get more of this evidence analyzed and back out to the prosecutors so we can put the right people behind bars. >> chip, you created a foundation, citizens for dna as far back as 1997. tell me about the barriers, and what is the problem? >> well, in 1998, we discovered there were 160,000 samples, blood samples sitting in prefridge traitors in the department of forensics here in virginia and the money had not been appropriated, so the citizens group lobbied the general assembly and $11 million was appropriated. once the profiles went into the data bank we went to having two to three hits a year to two to three hits a day. so funding is an issue. then we found missing samples. i was working on a serial rape case two years ago and we were getting persons of interest as suspects in the case, and i knew they were convicted felons, but they were not the data bank and the law said they should have been, so i worked with members
of the general assembly, and we have that plugged up. but in my estimate between 30,000 and 40,000 people who had not given samples that should have. >> chip, back to the funding issue, of course, because of the economy and with the economy the way it is right now and budgets very tight, how much money are we talking about when we talk about a rape kit, because you would think with technology the cost would be coming down? >> it is coming down. in 1998, it cost an average of $50 a sample. we don't do blood samples, but a buccal swab and sit down to $20 to get a sample from a suspect and get it into data bank. it is no excuse, and the public does not understand the gravity of it how we are underutilizing dna. >> susan, you say there is underfunding, and what do you think will sol tv problem of the enormous backlog that exists?
>> well, two things as we prepared for the hearing and then again today, we realized that too many local law enforcement officers still do not understand the investigative power of dna. we know that around the country, too many samples from stranger rape cases have not been forwarded for analysis, because law enforcement says, there is no suspect, but that is why exactly we should be analyzing the cases. another solution that we have come to realize is that we need greater public awareness that rape victims have the right to a free forensic exam at the hospital whether or not they have made the decision to report the crime. >> of course, this is not just about rape cases, but so much larger when you look at the picture as well about dna in general. >> that is definitely true. our organization, we represent not only sexual assault victims, but victims of burglary, homicide survivors whose cases are still open, and families
with missing loved ones and we know they are unidentified decedents all over the country, and those samples need to be tested and processed and gotten into the database. >> chip, wrapping up, we have talked about the problems and the financial issues and the difficulties created, but for going forward, what can we do to speed it up to get the samples sitting on the shelf through the system? >> i think it is an awareness issue, and each state, you need to take issue where you live in the united states to see what your state is doing, and work with your legislative body to fix this. it is not about putting the guilty people in jail, because the innocence project has freed 300 people mostly by dna and we know today we have innocent people sitting in jail that should not be here and we have people walking around raping the women and abducting the children and no need of this if we take care of this dna.
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hello, once again, we are giving context to some sexting. a renew report from the pugh center looks at teens' texting habits. 4% of kids 12 to 17 admit that they have sent out naked or nearly naked pictures of themselves. 15% say they have received them. amongst the older teens, they double. 18% have sent the provocative pictures and 30% have received them. we will talk about this more and melinda helped to compile the sexting statistics, and she is a researcher with the pugh and american life project. thank you for the time. now that we have outlined what it is. maybe we should let people understand why people would want to do this. what are the scenarios that you have learned about with your
phone surveys and also with some of the focus groups that you had? >> well, certainly n the focus groups teens told us three scenarios under which they would send se x to other people. first scenario is when they would send it between two romantic partners, were dating, together, and they sent the images and don't leave. the second is when romantic partners send them to each other and then the images jump ship and leave when one partner shares them with friends. the third is when teens are not in a relationship yet, and though generally one person would like to be, and that i used the images as a relationship currency, and they send them back and forth to say, hey, i'm interested, and i want to be involve in a relationship with you. >> so a relationship currency, and a sort of power that may exist between these young people? >> certainly. and we heard that sometimes that power is not always equal. so some girls told us in the
focus group they felt pressured to send the images to young men when they asked for them, either boyfriends or people they were interested in, and they felt like they would not be able to continue the relationships unless they sent the images. >> so a new peer pressure that the kids have to deal with and the young girls and boys you talked to and then you talked to middle-school kids and then older kids, and do you see a different kind of sexting that is going on with the different age groups? >> well, certainly, much more going on with the older teens and part of that that older teens have phones for themselves and likely to have had them for longer period of time, and teens are involved in more sophisticate and morrow mantic relationships that on the teens, so it makes sense that they would have more experience in these things. >> well, they see it as a way of socializing an edge gau -- enga in the sexting, and that they
could be prosecuted and these could stay on their record and does it encourage them to take a moment to not send it? >> well, we heard really a mix in the groups. some kids were very aware of the prosecutions and the questionable legality of sending the images, and other teens felt like, it is not a big deal. this is fun. other teens felt like, you know what, this is something i do with my girlfriend and my boyfriend and this is nobody else's business and this should not be an issue, because it is between us. >> nobody's business if it is between the two, but of course if the relationship ends as you pointed out, sometimes it does continue to exist and get sent elsewhere. moms and dads, and i know you lad the chance to talk to them, do they seem surprised by what is going on? and what can moms and dads do since some of them may be paying the bills for the cell phones? >> certainly we did find out that if the teens themselves are paying for their own cell phone bills, they are more likely to engage in this kind of behavior. another thing that we heard is --
>> i think we are having audio difficulties with amanda leinhearth and she is a researcher with the american life and pugh research project to help us understand sexting which is more prevalent in middle school and high school aged kids. this is the focus of some research that the pugh center did with the university of michigan. thank you for your time and perspective, amanda. again, we looked at the fatal flight in chicago that shock sod maned so many, and wh fight. here is a report from "american mornin morning. ". >> reporter: how many of you have been in a fight of some kind? >> all five of you? >> last september for me. >> reporter: for these chicago
teens, fighting is a way of life. >> it is like that every day in school, and it is not a day in school you don't see somebody in an argument over petty stuff. >> not an accidental bump, but a move meant to intimidate. >> reporter: why important to be big man in campus? >> well, if somebody bump you, you feel like in your head you got treated like a punk. >> reporter: anything more serious? >> once i was fighting, it was with five girls and they said, we will spare your life today and that scared me. >> reporter: what these chicago teens tell us is not unusual. because nearly 40% of chicago students were involved in a physical fight. >> high school is about young people scrambling for power and influence. >> reporter: lila leads a program to stem teen violence. >> in some high schools the currency is how much money your parents make or what kind of car you drive or what college
because you are taking five ap classes, but in some, it is the reputati reputation. >> reporter: for some of these teens, reputation is all they have, because over 50% live below the poverty line. gangs and drugs and violence is all part of their neighborhood. have you witnessed violence? >> i have. >> it happen everyday and mostly over petty stuff. >> reporter: for these teens, the daily threat of violence is all too real. you carry stuff around when you are outside of the -- >> yes. >> yes. >> of course. >> if you don't carry -- >> you might as well just lay down on your grey aave and dig yourself. >> reporter: wait, what do you carry? >> i carry a taser and mace. >> i carry mace, box cutters and scissors. >> reporter: these teens have a tough exterior in order to
survive. >> my mom says, if you didn't fight her, get your scary self out of my face. >> they are scared something will happen to the kid, and then the fear is turned into anger and the anger transmits to the kid, and the kid is told to defend yourself, because if you are a punk, people will try you. >> reporter: and in this program, that thinking is tried to be changed. using leadership skills to resolve conflicts without fighting. these five teens say it is helping them. amber was suspended 15 times for getting into fights her freshman year. but now a junior, she says she has worked hard to keep trouble at bay. >> though i look at a lot of situations different and a lot of fights different, and when people say, arguing and i am thinking in my mind, is fighting her worth it? you are about to get ten days out of school? it is not worth it. >> another new development affecting millions of american children everyday, or everyday
they go to school, and we have been telling you about the federal government's standards for the meat they buy for public school lunches, but it seems that the standards are below fast food chains, but above those of the supermarkets. now kristen gillibrand from the state of new york is calling for a strict testing program on par with jack-in-the-box and costco. and tom vilsack has promised a review, but he has not committed to any changes yet. you have probably heard of the sarn getty, and two of the famous wildlife areas in africa, but now a new name could be named to the list. southern sudan, and against all odds animals there survived a long civil war, but now they are facing a new threat. david mckenzie explains. >> reporter: when paul alkin prepares for a wildlife sur vash va, it takes efforts.
first, he takes the doors off. as director of the wildlife society in sudan, paul spends a lot of time flying betty, his cessna 206. >> a lot of the collared elephants out here. >> reporter: today, we are looking for elephants. a few years ago scientists said it was impossible that elephants could survive sudan's civil war, and soldiers on both sides killed them for meat and ivory, but the scientists were wrong. less than 50 miles outside of southern sudan's capital, we spot a small herd. these are the first tv images of wild elephants in sudan, against all odds, several thousand survived the conflict, escaping tanks and guns and disappearing in the vast expanses of the bush. he will never forget the moment he and his colleagues rediscovered the elephants. >> we were estatic. we were moved really.
surprising that people have been saying that the elephants are finished in southern sudan, so initially people are cheering and yelling and people in the plane and normally scientists are focused people, but everybody is whooping and hollering, can you believe elephants are here? >> reporter: it is not just elephants, but southern sudan boasts the largest savannah in south america. soaring wetlands and platforms and a strong antelope migration that survived the war. but many animals did not. 30 years ago, this area was thickly populated with wildlife at the time they found 30,000 zebra and now they have counted only seven. in peace, they face an even bigger threat. nomadic tribes are pushing into the wildlife zones bringing in their cattle and their weapons. in the past they used bows and arrows to hunt, and now they have ak-47s. they also have competitors for
the land. investors eager to tap into the oil and mineral deposits in the wildlife zones. to protect those zones, the soldiers and militias who killed wildlife in the war are being turned into rangers. tasked with protecting the land and stopping poachers. >> hi, how are you? >> reporter: but they are usually outman and outgunned. these are some of to poorest people in the world, and protecting wildlife comes a distant second to survival. >> translator: i have a question for you he says. you say we must not kill the wildlife because otherwise they will be finished, and now i have to slaughter one of my cows, so in a few years, i will have no cow and you want me to kill all of my cows and have nothing? conversationists say without the wildlife wildlife, they will have nothing. >> they will be much more poor if nay don't have a wildlife
base. the poorest people in the world are those who live in an environmentally degradated, degraded places. >> reporter: in southern sudan they have a chance to save one of the true wildernesses and animals, but it could also become a paradise lost. david mckenzie, cnn, sudan. i want you to be aware of the big stories developing on this tuesday. president obama is holding a high level meeting with senate democrats at the white house today, and pressing them to reach an agreement on a new health care reform bill by the end of the year, but independent senator of connecticut joe lieberman could be an obstacle, because he opposes a provision to expand health care. two teens and three police officers are now indicted on a fatal attack of a latino man in pennsylvania. the teenagers are accused of beating luis ramirez last year. the two teens and police chief
are accused of tampering with evidence and lying to the fbi. an illinois prison in the little town of thompson could soon become home to terror suspects. president obama ordered uncle sam to acquire the underused thompson correctional center and turn it into a supermax prison. once it meets the standards lit house 100 detainees from guantanamo bay. this story just in to the cnn newsroom. the d.c. council has voted to allow same-sex marriages. the mayor fenti vows to sign the bill, and opponents vow to continue to fight. and replacing furnaces and air conditions, and i know you have a long to-do list. xxxxx
stephanie elam has the energy fix on the cnnmoney.com newsroom in new york. let's start with more on what this program will look like and it has a good ring for it, cash for clunkers. and it sounds familiar. >> well, it is a nice alliteration for us, melissa. we are talking about financial incentives to retro fit homes for energy efficiency. there are plans in place across the country funded by local or state governments. take the town of babylon in new york in june when we visited them, because there the town provided funds to hire local contractors and energy auditors and give you rates for replacing old furnaces with new energy starr ones, and the homeowners pays back the town over ten years and will save enough to cover the costs. one of the home owners in babylon said that he had
increased the business tenfold, and now he expects it to go tenfold because of the similar plans in neighboring towns. he is also planning to hire eight more workers that will nearly triple the size of his company. now, the only problem he says is that small businesses loans are nearly impossible to get, melissa. >> but it is obviously benefiting his business, the local contractor singing the praises of this. what about the homeowners though? any expectation to take advantage of this? >> well, no doubt. if you are struggling to pay the mortgage, then obviously, you don't have money to make the improvements, and babylon, over 300 homes have been retrofitted to date with 10% of that -- well, i should say that is 10% of all of the town's homes at this point. now, this morning, we went out and asked people if they are take advantage of the national program and if they would if there is one, and here is what they had to say. >> i think it is a great incentive to save energy.
it makes our homes smarter. it helps the consumer saves money and it is a great use of government funds. >> i think that the debt level is high enough in the country that we don't need to take on any additional debt. >> if they are giving me the money for it, sure, but i can't afford it. >> and as usual those who can afford it will, and those who can't won't be able to. >> so if you want to read more about this and the whole idea of taking a look at get cash for caulking, you can head over to cnn.com/money to read more about the story. >> thank you, stephanie. sometimes it is all about having enough hands to get the work done in the house. but the next story is eight arms to get the work done. but it is not your arms, but we are going to take you under the sea. the octopus may be the genius of the ocean. if you want to see the weather ahead, push here.
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the stores were closed and the afghans were skeptical. six months later, at least 50% of the stores are open, and even though the afghans are more receptive, there is still skepticism. the mistrust lies in the fact that the coalition forces were here years before, but had to leave, because the lack of forces to hold the area. the taliban flooded back and took control for the next three years, punishing those who had sided with the foreign forces. >> translator: now the people believe that the coalition will not leave them and they are here to say, says the governor. if they believe that the americans will leave, they will stop supporting them, because they know that the taliban will come back and harass them. although president obama's new strategy for afghanistan focuses on winning over the people, these marines and soldiers have already been hard at work, doing just that. leaving the relative comfort and safety of the bases to experience the sometimes
unforgiving land. engaging the villagers who say that winning their support is very simple. >> translator: we hear from the u.s. all of the time that they don't want to kill the civilians, he says. but if they put that into action, everybody will be happy with them. >> reporter: last summer's mission was to secure, hold, and build. this is an example of change, and in six months, the marines have been able to secure and hold. but, now, the afghans wait to see the building efforts promised. what they fear is abandonment, again. atia abowie in the helmand province in afghanistan. it is coming up to 3:00 p.m. on the eastern coast. rick sanchez is next. making news right now. the president is trying to save health care